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Primordial Experience: An Introduction to Dzog-chen Meditation UPDATE:Default Title both pleasurable and painfulAuthor Contributor(s): Lipman, Kennard; Namkhai Norbu, Chogyal; Manjusrimitra Publisher: Shambhala Date: 12 11 2001 Binding: Paperback Condition: NEW The Tibetan teaching of Dzog chen (pronounced ZOAK chen), also known as Ati yoga, is considered by its adherents to be the definitive and most secret teaching of the Buddha. Primordial Experience is a translation of a key text articulating the Dzog chen teachings, "Gold Refined from Ore," by
